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Monday
Jan252010

Piracy

by Pari

"Piracy." It sounds so romantic, doesn't it? The high seas. Adventure . . .

But there's nothing romantic about the case in Minnesota where a woman was fined $2 million for illegally downloading 24 songs and sharing them with others. Last Friday, the judge slashed her fine dramatically – by more than $1.8 million -- saying the initial punishment was too much.

However, he still fined her.

And guess what? She’s fighting against paying even the much reduced amount.

Piracy has been on my mind lately because of the Google Settlement deadline. (It's Jan. 28, Kids, in case you still haven't decided what to do.) And the fact that I think the terms are so iffy and squirrely that it verges on a landgrab.

And then I read about the Minnesota case in Huffington Post. Last Friday’s decision stimulated an interesting conversation in the comments. Many readers implied that the woman was a victim of corporate greed. Indeed, they asserted, she was the one wronged.

Wait a minute . . .

Am I missing a crucial piece of information here?

Was she forced to download these songs?

Did someone hold a gun to her head? Threaten to kill her children?

No.

The woman willfully took items that didn’t belong to her. She took them because she didn't want to pay for them.

Um  . . . correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I looked that was called "stealing."

If someone walked into her house and took 24 things she’d spent months or years making, do you think she would’ve stood for it?  Or would she have called the police to report a robbery?

My bet is on door #2.

So why is piracy tacitly condoned in many circles? Why do normally intelligent and considerate people think that it’s perfectly okay to pilfer someone else’s work? (I'm talking about taking it. Owning it. Often sharing or selling it . . .)

Some of you might be thinking, "Pari, chill out. Each song would’ve only cost her a few cents, maybe a dollar or two.” I can see you shaking your head at me in pity. "Don’t we have bigger problems in the world than a couple of bucks?”

Not if you’re a novelist.

And if you are a novelist and you’re not paying attention to piracy, you’re worse than the proverbial ostrich. By not standing up against it – and by pirating other’s works yourself – you’re helping destroy your own career.

Simple as that.

Every day I hear of – and see -- more and more sites that are distributing full copies of our works for free. Without our permission. Without our publishers’ permission.

In my case, I own electronic rights to my works. That means these people are stealing directly from me. And my children.

Theft.

Punishable by law.

Yes. It may be only a few cents per work, but it’s my effort on the line. Here's a little secret: I didn’t expend so much time and energy to get published so that someone else could feel entitled to rip me off.

I might not have this reaction if novelists and other writers were paid one-time high fees for their work. But most of us aren't. Our money comes from advances and then royalties tallied against actual sales. Wholesale, mind you. Not net. As far as I’m concerned, every time someone downloads one of my books without paying – it’s an active slap in the face. It’s wrong and needs to be stopped.

I’ve had discussions with my creative friends – writers, photographers, painters, songwriters – and we constantly come to the conclusion that creativity in our society is horribly undervalued. It's as if people seem to think that anyone could write Jane Eyre or The Raven. That once a book – or other creative endeavor – is produced, it should enter the public domain.

But how are creatives supposed to live in a society that doesn’t want to pay for their work?

I don’t know. Can you tell me?

And why would anyone think that we should work hard  . . . for free?

What's going to happen to our culture, our society, if the most original and creative people decide it's not worth the trouble? I wonder.

This takes me back to piracy.
It's not innocent.
It’s not okay.
It’s not cute.

It’s stealing.
It’s theft.

It’s fucking wrong. 

And I’m sick of it.

____________________________________

What about you?
Do you think it's all right? A act against "the MAN?"
Do you think I'm being unreasonable, that it's a brave new world and I'd just better get with the program?

I look forward to this conversation.

 

 

 



Reader Comments (76)

I don't think anyone here is going to disagree that piracy is wrong. To me, the unanswered questions are (1) how do you stop it without pissing off your customers (something the record companies never managed) ; and (2) If you can't stop it, how do you make a living anyway?

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJD Rhoades

The fight also has to include education. Remember this is a society who applauded when Mark Mcguire finally came out an admitted he cheated. He cheated. This is a society who has shielded its younger generations from failure. One who laughs at rule followers and makes fun of people trying to do right.
But it also takes people who see what wrong and do something about it and that is also where we fail. No one wants to step up to take action because they're too busy or someone else will do it.
Just sayin'.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterPK the Bookeemonster

"Each song would’ve only cost her a few cents, maybe a dollar or two."

Then she could have afforded not to steal them if she wanted them.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterDana King

I've been mulling over just this topic over the past few weeks. Based on what I've been able to gather, it seems:
-- Book pirates tend to be young men
-- Not surprisingly, the pirated books tend to be those of interest to that demographic (the 10 most popular pirated titles of 2009 focused on sex, photography, and home repair. The only female-centric novel to crack the top-10 was by Stephanie Meyer.
-- Many, if not most, of hose who upload the books haven't even read them. They just share the files because maybe they like screwing the system.
-- Those who download the files do so for a variety of reasons, not just because these are free books that they want to read. Sometimes it's because they just don't want to be seen owning (or purchasing) a book that might embarrass them. So erotica may be high on the pirated lists.

What does the future hold, based on this?
-- Traditional romance fiction is probably safe for the moment, as those consumers are happy to buy real books. And those titles may not be uploaded as often by male pirates.
-- any traditional female-centric fiction may be okay for awhile. Which means mysteries may not be suffering as much as others.
-- Science fiction, fantasy, and erotic are going to be the first genres in real trouble.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertess gerritsen

JD,
I actually do think many, many people consider piracy just fine. That it's their right because the artists, writers etc are getting ripped off by the big corporations anyway. I know it's twisted logic, but I've found it in places I would've never imagined.

And yes, we don't want to piss off our customers -- but are people who rip us off "customers" in the first place?

I just don't know.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

PK,
I think your comment is on the money. It's like the person who flips you off for going the speed limit or stopping at a yellow light -- the law just doesn't apply to them.

I can tell you this: I almost didn't post on this subject because it makes me so angry and people are so willing to pirate all kinds of works -- without even any kind of acknowledgment of the artist -- that I thought I'd be slammed down for being too conservative.

We'll see how the day's conversation goes . . .

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Dana,
That's my point.
And now with ebooks from publishers -- or authors themselves such as what I'm going to do with my works -- cost shouldn't be an issue for our books either.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Tess,
Where did you get your stats? I bet there's even more I could learn.

I will say that the piracy sites I go to often have writers like Charlaine Harris on them too. I don't know what I'd call her books -- fantasy, romance?-- but it's the television tie-in that probably counts for a lot.

And it seems to me that the science fiction and fantasy fans have always felt that they sort of own works once they're published . . . I'm thinking of fan fic and how some authors like it while others really, really don't see it as a form of flattery at all.

So your read of those who are most at risk might be right. But on one of the listservs I'm on -- with many romance writers -- the problem seems to be pretty bad as well.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Pari, I hear ya. I have friends and relatives who pirate books, movies, games, you name it. They''ve all got reasons: I can't get legit movies here in China (yeah, but you brag about the deal you're getting); I thought they were legit (you bought eight books for five bucks on Ebay); HBO's prices are unreasonable (so don't buy their service; finding the price unreasonable doesn't give you the right to steal).

I guess part of the answer lies in making it socially unacceptable to pirate, by speaking out when we see someone doing it -- even if they're a friend. Not that that's any fun whatsoever.

I will say that even $200,000 seems a bit out of proportion to the crime though. For all we know, that's the woman's entire net worth.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJane

here's an interesting news bit I just came across:

"Within just one week of implementing Europe’s Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive (IPRED), Sweden has already seen legal digital music downloads double, according to one digital media distributor.

One report last week said Sweden’s overall internet traffic was down by 30 percent a day after the law’s introduction. A 100 percent hike in pay-for music downloads seems unlikely - but that’s what digital white-label distributor InProdicon tells Sweden’s English-language TheLocal.se site, which says the company supplies half of all Sweden’s legal music downloads."

http://paidcontent.co.uk/article/419-effect-of-swedens-new-piracy-laws-twice-the-number-of-legal-downloads/

So passing and enforcing copyright protection laws really does work to increase legitimate sales. At least in Sweden. And pirates really do rob our profits.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertess gerritsen

Jane,
The $2 million was out of line. The judge ended up charging her something like $2500 per song. I think that's reasonable since she DID commit a crime and needs more than a tiny slap on the hand.

Your point about people bragging is true. Tess wrote about the demographics of pirates, but I've met middle-aged women who feel entitled.

And whenever a court decides in favor of the artist/publisher violated, there's this odd outrage against them as if they're greedy and horrid.

I don't know how we raise awareness that piracy hurts everyone, not when we've got a society that's always looking for the lowest --rather than the most REASONABLE -- price. What could be lower than free?

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Wow, Tess.
That's amazing.

But, of course, the law was passed in the first place. That must mean that someone in Sweden "gets" that there's a problem in the first place.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

a link to the Attributor study about e-book piracy:

http://www.attributor.com/docs/Attributor_Book_Anti-Piracy_Research_Findings.pdf

And I think the data about pirates skewing young a male came from a Verso study, which was quoted over on Crimespace.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertess gerritsen

When I was at my little hippie college in Portland, some of my fellow (idiot) students justified shoplifting. According to them, it was OK to steal from Safeway because the corporation was "the man," but it wasn't OK to steal from the locally owned grocer across the street. Otherwise honest people pirate because they assume the people they're stealing from don't need the money. After all, Diddy just gave his son a Maybach for his 16th birthday. Can he really claim poverty if some woman in Minnesota illegally downloads Mo Money, Mo Problems?

The problem, of course, is most people who live off their intellectual property aren't rich, and we're certainly not "the man."

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAlafair Burke

I think piracy is COMPLETELY wrong, but in the case of the woman you mentioned at the top of the post -- Jammie Thomas -- I'm not sure any evidence against her was actually presented. I've read up on the case and it seems to me this was more the music industry bullying someone in face of their own fear about illegal downloading. She was one of thousands of people the RIAA accused of piracy, but one of the few who refused to be bullied. She went to trial based only on the RIAA's say so and not much else.

She may WELL have been a pirate, but frankly, I think when you accuse someone of something, you should actually have evidence that goes beyond a user name and an IP address. Such things can easily be faked. There are millions of "zombie" computers in this world, and if you're using a PC right now, yours may well be one of them. If your wireless connection is an open one, your neighbor could well be downloading kiddie porn on your account as we speak.

So until there's a more definitive way to prove someone is willfully pirating material, then I have to stick with reasonable doubt. I guess since this was a civil case, the standard would be a preponderance of evidence, but I'm not sure that standard was met.

BOOK piracy is certainly a problem, but I don't think it's THAT much of a problem for these reasons:

1. Most people aren't Internet savvy enough to know where to go to download pirated books.

2. Most people are honest and would just as soon pay for books. Especially when they can go to an ebook store that has just about any book they could want without having to search all over the Internet for a "free" copy.

3. You can download and read ebooks for free from your local library. Audiobooks as well.

I'm not completely convinced that pirates rob our profits, because I think that most people who download pirated material NEVER had the intention of paying for it in the first place, and would not pay for it even if the pirate version was unavailable. The same is true of software and music.

All that said, I think piracy is wrong, wrong, wrong. But I just look at it as the price of doing business, like the hardward store owner who has to worry about someone slipping out the door with a wrench under his shirt. You put precautions in place, then stop worrying about it.

My two cents, anyway.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRob Gregory Browne

Pari:

This can all be traced back to computer software piracy. The very word "software" gives people the impression that the product is a trifle --- it has no tangible shape or form, other than the CD it was burned onto and the box that CD came in, so what could possibly be the harm in stealing it? How can you steal something that doesn't PHYSICALLY exist?

Also, there's another bit of wrongheadedness at play here, and that's the perception people have of writers and musicians as BILLIONAIRES who wouldn't miss the royalty on a 99 cent download if they tried. We've all been confronted with it a thousand times, the ridiculous misconception many people have that if you're a published author, you must be swimming in dough. To these people, we ARE "the Man," so there's no reason to lose sleep any over depriving us of our take on a measly $20 worth of downloaded intellectual material.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterGar Anthony Haywood

rob, the second phase of the Attributor study will address just that question: how many illegal downloads would otherwise have resulted in a legitimate ebook purchase? At the moment, there doesn't seem to be any hard data.

The result of the Swedish law's passing, however, makes a pretty convincing argument that illegal downloads of music really do take away from legitimate downloads. When legal downloads increase by 100% within one week after a copyright protection law passed, you have to believe that at least some current thieves would have bought the books.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertess gerritsen

Hi Pari

Great and highly intriguing post! I wrote about my own worries on eBooks a few weeks ago, but you've gone into the subject of piracy much more thoroughly, I think.

Rob made a very interesting point, though: "I'm not completely convinced that pirates rob our profits, because I think that most people who download pirated material NEVER had the intention of paying for it in the first place, and would not pay for it even if the pirate version was unavailable."

It's a little like the true definition of a bargain. If you go into a store intending to buy a particular item at a given price, and when you get to the shelf, the item is marked down by 50%, that's a bargain. Going into the store and coming out with a completely different item than the one you were actually shopping for, and (if truth be told) you don't really need, just because it was half price, is not a bargain. It's an impulse buy.

People browsing a list of illegally copied eBooks or movies or music, might decide to take a punt on something purely on the basis that it's available in front of them, rather than because that's what they were after when they went to the site in the first place. Yes, the big names and the international bestsellers are going to be pirated, and pirated fast, but for the rest of us it's more likely to be a crime of opportunity rather than prior intent. Not that I'm saying that makes it better, mind you ...

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterZoë Sharp

OK, that's what happens when you get interrupted in the middle of typing a comment, and by the time you post it, other people have made much more intelligent remarks on the subject ... ;-[

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterZoë Sharp

I HATE to say this, but some might argue that for those of us who are not on the bestseller lists, piracy could well give us exposure that we wouldn't normally get. Which might lead to a widening of readership.

Now, if those readers are merely pirating our books, then the benefit is, of course, lost. But I do know that many independent unsigned musicians got a following thanks to the exposure of illegal downloads.

Just saying. Doesn't mean I endorse the practice. But, believe it or not, I always like to look for a silver lining... :)

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRob Gregory Browne

Tess, you have to understand that Sweden can't be compared to the United States. Sweden had NO piracy laws whatsoever. Downloading was completely legal and therefore considered mainstream.

So the theory that people who downloaded were not interested in buying in the first place does not apply as it does in the U.S. and the rest of the world.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRob Gregory Browne

From what I understand, the overwhelming majority of piracy comes from a handfull of big, recognized filesharing sites. What publishers need to do is monitor those sites for illegal copyright infringements and then enforce their rights via letter, civil action or whatever is necessary. The pressure needs to be applied agaisnt the sites themselves, in addition to the people uploading and downloading.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJMH

Alafair,
I think you're right about the attitude. I know when I was younger I might've felt the same way: "Those rich money-grubbers don't need my $2."

I don't know how we educate people about the reality for most of us since the myth of wealth persists and is often encouraged.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Rob,
I wonder about this Thomas case. Why did the jury buy the corporate line so fully, with such a huge fine, if she had nothing to do with it? I don't know. I've read about it too and came to a slightly different conclusion, I guess.

I do believe that piracy is a big problem that will only increase if we don't speak out against it -- or at least try to educate people about what's at stake for those of us who aren't making megabucks.

And I remain upset that someone feels it's okay to take my work without some kind of reimbursement. Libraries are different IMHO but I'm not sure I could articulate why I feel that way in light of this particular issue.

Thanks for presenting another view.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Zoe,
You may well be right but, again, on the listserv I'm talking about these aren't wildly well-known authors who consistently have their works pirated. They're mainly romance writers who churn out 3-5 books a year and don't get a lot of money for any of them. Their success rests entirely on sales numbers and I do think piracy is having an impact on them.

I might be wrong. That's why I brought up the subject in the first place. I wanted to know what others in our 'Rati community think.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Gar,
Thanks for the history on the word in this context. I appreciate it.

And you're absolutely right about the "wrongheadedness." I wonder how we counter it, though? If we creatives talk too much about money, it upsets our audiences. But how do we weaken the myth?

I will say that when I give talks to book clubs, I always ask if they want to know the economics of being an author. Many say "yes" and are astounded when I tell them how advances and royalties work . . .

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Rob,
I have heard that argument before and it's possible it's true. I liken it to sending out ARCs. But after 20+ years in marketing/pr I'm more unconvinced than ever that handing out entire books for free results in future sales -- at least in any numbers that justify the expense in the first place.

So . . . the jury is out on that one.

JMH,
I would've agreed with you a year ago, but now these sites are popping up all over the place. Small ones.

You are correct in that publishers/organizations with clout need to address the piracy sites directly. It just seems as if they're proliferating like overly fertile bunnies.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Pari, I'm certainly not trying to suggest that piracy is okay. And I think we should speak out against it as much as we possibly can.

But I have to consider that in the hard copy world, our books are constantly "pirated" so to speak. When someone buys a copy, they pass it along to a friend. Used bookstores make money off of our work and we never see a sent of compensation.

You can argue that when a pirated ebook is passed along, then TWO people have a copy. Or three or thousands. Whatever. And that's a concern. But there are also thousands of used copies made available the SECOND a book goes on sale at Amazon, sometimes for as little as a penny and shipping, so I'm not sure it's all that different. Yet, the publishing industry still manages to survive.

As for Jammie Thomas, I think the reason the jury found her guilty was because they simply don't understand technology. I encountered this problem first hand, when I was on a federal grand jury for a year. We heard a case of a so-called "hacker" whom the prosecutor wanted us to indict and send to trial. But the evidence just wasn't there. Those of us who knew about computers (about six of us on the jury) could clearly see that the evidence against the accused just wasn't sufficient to indict.

But because the other jurors (there were twenty or so on the grand jury) didn't understand technology, they believed the prosecutor and overrode our objections and indicted the guy anyway. He subsequently went to trial, encountered another clueless jury, and is now serving twenty-five years in jail. For something I KNOW he didn't do.

So when it comes to cases involving technology, I tend to view them with a grain of salt.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRob Gregory Browne

As for the Google Settlement, I'm personally disgusted by it. It's my understanding that the "opt out" provision that is offered to authors is in regard to OUT OF PRINT books only. So all of my books are currently in print. How am I protected that when they go out of print -- which is bound to happen at some point -- that Google will leave them alone? I don't see any mechanism to prevent this.

And I think this is worse than any piracy currently going on right now.

I'd also like to know why the Author's Guild is negotiating on my behalf, when I have nothing to do with them whatsoever.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRob Gregory Browne

And yes, we don't want to piss off our customers -- but are people who rip us off "customers" in the first place?

Good point. But when people see something that looks so wildly out of proportion as 2 million dollars for 24 songs, or when they see record companies going hammer and tongs, not just against big file sharing sites but against people with 24 pirated songs on their hard drives, they're courting a backlash from people who may not have even thought of downloading at all. The record companies already had an image problem when the price of CD"s never came down, even after it became cheaper to make and distribute them. I'm seeing the same discontent from readers over Kindle books that are the exact same price, if no more, than hardcovers, despite the cost savings to the producer.

When you look like a greedy bastard, people get less upset when the pirates take your stuff. Which is why all the pirate movies show the pirates going after people who "deserve" it. Remember in Pirates of the Caribbean 3 when they were hanging women and little kids for 'aiding" piracy? You have any sympathy for the English after that?

BTW, anyone have any figures on whether illegal downloading decreased once legal downloading got cheaper (as in .99 or less a song) and more convenient?

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJD Rhoades

I think I may be in a unique position in this discussion. Do I buy CD's? Yes. Do I buy songs off iTunes? I wish I could, but I'm not a member and can't afford the $20 gift cards. But I also get some music illegally, and I'm okay with that, but I wish I weren't.

I don't pirate music because I want to, or because it's easier. I do it because there is literally no other way for me to get the songs.

There is a band called Blacktop Mourning; they have a song called Future's Gone. There is one youtube video with the song as music; it is a horrible version taken at a live performance with a camera phone. I have checked every store in town, in the nearest three shopping centers, in both malls within a three hour drive, and every place I can get to without a car at college. I can literally only listen to it online, usually through illegal venues. Would I buy it if I could? You bet. I love the song; it's in my top ten. But I can't, and there is no public library for music.

The same goes for other things. The band Story of the Year, my favorite band overall, has several songs that are only available overseas... or through illegal download. I'm a college student working at McDonalds when I can, unable to get a job at college though I qualify for work study (too many applicants), who saved over $10,000 in high school through willpower alone and have a good desktop computer and a twice hand-me-down monitor to cut costs, and I'm already in debt to loans. If I spend money on nothing but college until I graduate, I should have less than $17,000 in debt... 'should' being the key word, and using impossible parameters.

I don't understand book stealing, because libraries have lots of books, and with a bit of patience can get almost any book after a request. I don't know of anyplace or thing that can do that with music. And, the few CD's I own are because I heard the music illegally- the only place I'd have ever heard it, likely- fell in love and bought it. It may not mean much, but it's how I justify it.

If- when I get published, I would rather people buy my stuff, but if they use a library because they can't afford it, I'm okay with that. If my book's not available to be bought online, it's only published in my country, and they're overseas with no way to get a copy, then it'll sting if they get it illegally but I'll understand. What other options are there?

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterEika

Rob,
Again, I bow to your knowledge on this. I'm not a technophobe, but I'm also woefully ignorant in many areas and am only slowly making headway in learning. BTW: If you know some good websites to help folks like me understand these technologies . . . I'd love to know them.

And the Google settlement -- as far as I understand it -- isn't just for out of print books though that's supposedly what they were saying was their "altruistic" reason for digitizing them.

I've opted out. There's an easy form if you look at the site, much better than it was a few months ago. I opted out on all my books. I know for a fact that at least two of them --and they're all still in print -- were on their list.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Unfortunately, I think we started out with the wrong word way back. Piracy - what does it bring to mind? Errol Flynn, the amazing Mr. Depp, the poor, sad, defeated Captain Hook. Do you cringe? Does bile creep up your throat?
Now pick another word. Something to do with stealing. Say, Plagerism - what does this word bring to mind? Dishonesty, thievery, scum.

Piracy is Robin Hood on the Internet. They take from those with percieved wealth for the use of those "less wealthy." And it's wrong. No matter what kind of polish you want to put on it to make it shine, underneath it's theft, stealing, whether it's a candy bar from the corner grocer, or $5 from Bill Gates. Bet a lot thought taking $5 from Bill Gates wasn't all that bad. If so, go steal a book from St. Martin's.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterJudy Wirzberger

JD,
Yep, yep, yep.

I know my husband and I have this discussion about CDs and how expensive they are considering how much the medium costs. It's illogical. So I understand people being pissed off about ebooks costing as much as trade paperbacks or hardcovers -- or expensive mm paperbacks.

But I get my pants get in a wad when I think about how devalued original creativity is in our culture. Why should everyone be looking for the cheapest way to get art, literature, music? It's kind of like looking for the cheapest food even though that doesn't reflect at all the real cost of growing it.

I just don't know . . .

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Some publishers are actually giving away books to spur sales of other books (Link to article). Obviously, this is different than piracy. If I own it, I decide whether and when to give it away. I think if you have a series with several published books, this is a good idea--except it re-inforces the idea that free is appropriate.

Demographically, I think it's tech-savvy people who tend to think intellectual property is worthless. After all, I can get a Word-compatible word processor free, if I use open source. If you have the mindset all that should be free, why should books be different.

As a yet-to-be-successful writer, I spend an awful lot of time I could be spending with my kids or exercising or whatever, writing books. It's already maddening to think I might be wasting my time at it. To think I'm never going to make money...if that's the case, what's in it for me? I hate to be so mercenary, but considering the opportunity cost, I need at least a chance at a payoff.

Chris

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterChris Hamilton

Eika,
I'm really glad you spoke up. Thank you. Your points are important to this discussion. The fact that you've heard so much music illegally and have opted to get some that way, too, is your decision.

I simply appreciate the fact that you wrote about it so that I could understand more about the reasons someone might do it.

Re: books
Libraries are doing a tremendous service. I guess I could say that someone borrowing a book feels different than someone taking it home and keeping it. But I'm not sure how far that argument would hold in this digital age. To me, the issue still remains -- taking something for nothing.

Even if bands or writers had donation buttons on their websites where someone could give a few pennies, that -- at least -- would be better than just taking it, period.

But, again, I don't have the answers. All I have are more and more questions.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Judy,
Yeah, "Piracy" does evoke something that's good in a dangerous way. And a new word would be better.

That's why I used "stealing, robbery, theft" and pilfering.

Words do influence our emotions. Even stealing from Gates sounds worse than "piracy."

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Chris,
I think you're right on on all accounts. I often use Open Office in place of MS Word (though I do have a purchased copy of the latter) and look to other open source materials.

But the people who write those are doing it because they want their work to be for free. I didn't start out with that intention nor do I intend to base my writing career on it. Like you, my writing time is time taken away from family. I'll always write -- but either it's going to be my career or simply a hobby. I'd prefer the former.

The giving away of ebooks and how they're driving sales seems to be a model that's working for some publishers. I don't know if this will hold true in ten years when more and more people become accustomed to using e-readers. Once the technology is close to half -- or even the majority -- of the method for literary distribution, it might be a very different story.

That's also when publishers might reassess the above model.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Rob:

What part did an ignorance of technology play in the original verdict against Jammie Thomas-Rasset? She willfully downloaded and distributed music she didn't pay for. Granted, the award was way out of whack, but I don't think a jurist had to be a techno geek to accurate assess her basic crime in the case. Am I missing something in the story?

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterGar Anthony Haywood

Libraries are a different animal entirely. They purchase the book, and lend it out to one patron at a time, and don't allow that patron to repeatedly photocopy that book.

Piracy allows limitless numbers of people to download a book. Limitless, and forever.

Within days of Dan Brown's new release, 100,000 pirated copies were downloaded.

In a few decades, when everyone has an e-reader, that number could be in the millions, all downloaded within days of a book's release.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertess gerritsen

Let's not overlook the fact that libraries do purchase the books they lend. They do contribute to the cause, and while, when we say "library", we tend to think of our own library, remember that there are thousands around the country. If every library in the country bought one copy of your book, you'd be doing nicely for a bit.

Granted, libraries have their own fiscal concerns, but that's another issue.

Pari, I honestly think a lot of this theft stems from that word "entitlement" and people's lax attitude toward stealing. How many times do you see people eating food at a grocery store, treating it like a wandering buffet? That's theft, but no one hollers about it.

"It's just a grape."
"It's just a song."
"It's just a story."

Rationalizations and the idea that people are entitled to what they want without working for it, buying it, are rapidly becoming an ordinary way of thinking.

I have no idea how to stop it. Teaching children from the very beginning that theft is wrong? I don't know. But book theft is a serious problem, and it seems to only be getting worse.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterFran

Gar,
I look forward to Rob's response.

Tess,
Thanks for putting the library vs piracy perspective so succinctly.

As to the future: J.D. wrote a post a few years ago about fame vs money. http://murderati.squarespace.com/blog/2007/11/21/the-devils-guest-blog-deal-or-no-deal.html
I know which one I'd pick.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Fran,
You should know.

And yes, part of the problem is how common small theft -- the grape in the grocery store (which I NEVER understood anyway) -- is. All I know is that I AM teaching my children about stealing and that even if it's small, it's still against the law.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

I occasionally have the piracy conversation wherein some cabbagehead says "All art should be free to the people." To which I always reply, "And how are the artists supposed to, you know, eat and pay their bills and have a place to live and stuff?" Sometimes light dawns for the cabbagehead, but sometimes I get the whole diatribe about "the masters of society are evil fascist hobbit-squashers and all artists should be housed and fed by the freed proletariat". Which is a lovely fluffy idea, I agree, but people have rent due next month, and turning Western Civilization upside down is probably gonna take a couple of minutes ;-)

Seriously, though, I think there are a lot of misconceptions out there around writing / writers, which contribute to the idea that piracy is really no worse than borrowing a book from the library (the most common excuse I hear for it). I’ve had people insist to me that all romance novels are computer generated. Many think that, by definition, being a published writer means you’re wealthy. The vast majority of readers have absolutely no idea how much time elapses between receiving that first advance, and the first royalty check – and how small some of the numbers are. It feels to me like a good communications program of some sort might be helpful – not quite sure, though, how it could be managed, funded, etc.

Piracy sucks, and the people who make me the angriest are the ones who, understanding that they're literally taking the bread out of someone's mouth, just don't care. But I think Rob's right - the only thing you can do is fight like hell to get decent laws and monitoring in place, and then continue to be watchful and fight for enforcement of said laws. Which is all very wearying and cranky-making..

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRae

Let's not forget the immortal words of Harlan Ellison, who thinks e-book piracy is theft, and he'll do what it takes to stop you:

“If you put your hand in my pocket, you’ll drag back six inches of bloody stump.”

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertess gerritsen

Rae,
I'll take your "cranky" anytime if it manifests in that WONDERFUL first paragraph of your comment. Just wonderful. I burst out laughing because I've had those same conversations again and again with people who think everything should be free.

But Utopia has always seemed an odd concept to me. When people don't have to work at all, when they get what they want when they want it, everything loses its value.

The whole patron of the arts concept is a nifty one. I don't know though how it worked in practice or if the artists and composers in past centuries censored what they really wanted to do in order to keep on the payroll.

Again, there aren't easy solutions.
We need to talk about it. We need to educate ourselves and others. At least that way we'll feel like we're doing something of merit.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Oh, man, Tess. I LOVE it!

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

And more from Harlan Ellison who is, um, rather passionate about this topic: (his caps, not mine. And I'm still laughing about "rodents")

"A WRITER’S WORK IS NOT INFORMATION: IT IS OUR CREATIVE PROPERTY, OUR LIVELIHOOD AND OUR FAMILIES’ ANNUITY. WHY SHOULD ANY ARTIST, OF ANY KIND, CONTINUE CREATING NEW WORK, EKING OUT AN EXISTENCE IN PURSUIT OF A CAREER, FOLLOWING THE MUSE, WHEN LITTLE INTERNET THIEVES, RODENTS WITHOUT ETHIC OR UNDERSTANDING, STEAL AND STEAL AND STEAL, CONVENIENCING THEMSELVES AND “SCREW THE AUTHOR”? WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT IS THE DEATH OF THE PROFESSIONAL WRITER!

THIS IS NOT ONLY MY FIGHT, I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHOSE WORK IS BEING PIRATED. HUNDREDS OF WRITERS’ STORIES, ENTIRE BOOKS, THE WORK OF A LIFETIME, EVERYONE FROM ISAAC ASIMOV TO ROGER ZELAZNY: THEIR WORK HAS BEEN THROWN ONTO THE WEB BY THESE SMARTASS VANDALS WHO FIND IT AN IMPOSITION TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THE GOODS. (BUT GAWD FORBID YOU TRY TO APPROPRIATE SOMETHING OF THEIRS…LISTEN TO ’EM SQUEAL!) THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE WILL AFFECT EVERY WRITER, EDITOR, PHOTOGRAPHER, ARTIST, MUSICIAN, POET, SCULPTOR, ACTOR, BOOK DESIGNER, PUBLISHER AND READER. WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT IS THE ANARCHY OF IGNORANT THIEVES RIPPING OFF THOSE WHO LABOR FOR AN HONEST PAYDAY, BECAUSE THEY CONVENIENTLY HONOR THE LIE THAT EVERYTHING SHOULD BE THEIRS FOR THE TAKING.

LOOK, THIS IS YOUR FIGHT, TOO. IF THAT DEMENTED, SELF-SERVING MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD “INFORMATION” PREVAILS, AND EVERY ZERO-ETHIC TOT WHO WANTS EVERYTHING FOR NOTHING, WHO EXISTS IN A TIME WHERE E-COMMERCE HUSTLERS HAVE CONVINCED HIM/HER THAT THEY’RE ENTITLED TO EVERYTHING FOR NOTHING PREVAILS, AND THEY ARE PERMITTED TO BELIEVE INFORMATION MUST BE FREE, WITH NO DIFFERENTIATION MADE BETWEEN RAW DATA AND THE CREATIVE PROPERTIES THAT PROVIDE ALL ARTISTS OF ANY KIND WITH AN ANNUITY, TO ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE CREATING NEW WORK, THEN WHAT WE’RE LOOKING AT IS THE EGREGIOUS INEVITABILITY OF NO ONE BUT AMATEURS GETTING THEIR WORK EXPOSED, WHILE THOSE WHO PRODUCE THE BULK OF ALL PROFESSIONAL-LEVEL ART FIND THEY CANNOT MAKE A DECENT LIVING.

DO NOT, FOR AN INSTANT, BUY INTO THE CULTURAL MYTHOLOGY THAT ALL ARTISTS ARE RICH. A FEW ARE, BUT MOST HAVE A HARD ROW TO HOE JUST SUBSISTING, HOLDING DOWN SECOND JOBS. MOST CREATORS PRACTICE THEIR ART BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT. IF IT WERE ONLY FOR THE BUCKS, THEY’D FARE BETTER AS DENTISTS, PLUMBERS, OR STEAM FITTERS. I’M FIGHTING FOR MYSELF, OF COURSE, BUT I’M ALSO DOING THIS FOR AVRAM DAVIDSON, WHO DIED BROKE; FOR ROGER ZELAZNY, WHO HAD TO WORK LIKE A DOG TILL THE DAY HE PITCHED OVER; AND FOR GERALD KERSH, WHOSE WORK WAS REPRINTED AND PIRATED IN SIXTY-FIVE COUNTRIES, WHILE HE HAD TO BORROW MONEY FROM FRIENDS TO FIGHT OFF THE CANCER. THIS IS YOUR FIGHT, TOO, GANG… AND NOW WE NEED YOUR HELP!"

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commentertess gerritsen

Tess,
Thank you. I don't think I've ever read a better commentary on it.

I suppose I should thank Harlan . . . I think I'll do that right now.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterpari noskin taichert

Gar, I'm not an expert on the case, but it's my understanding that Jammie Thomas's defense was that she didn't download the songs in question and that her computer had been compromised by someone outside, unknown to her. This may sound ridiculous, but such things are not only possible, but are not uncommon. Spammers put viruses on our computers all the time. So do kiddie porn distributors. You could have a trojan horse virus on your PC right now and not know it.

It's also my understanding that Thomas provided her hard drive to the court and there was no evidence of the songs in question or the program allegedly used to download them. Now, obviously, she could have erased the evidence, but as far as I know -- and as I said, I don't know a lot about it -- there was no physical evidence produced by the plaintiffs.

So, in other words, we're simply supposed to take their word for it? If a jury doesn't know that such technology as I describe above is possible -- if they think it's a ridiculous or "science fiction" notion -- then they'll be inclined to believe the plaintiff and think the defense is merely looking for excuses.

And that may well be true. But there's doubt. And when there's doubt, I think we should err on the side of the defendant.

January 25, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterRob Gregory Browne

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